||[Apr. 22nd, 2010|03:18 pm]
Ax Wound: Gender & The Horror Genre
I'm Tina. I have somehow just heard about Feast and had a question for those of you who've seen it.
I was talking to a friend about the atrocity of Rob Zombie's butchering of Halloween and the horrendous, long and unnecessary rape scene that made me turn it off (well, fast forward to Ken Foree's scene and then turn it off.) He recommended Feast saying there was one rape scene but that it had comic intent and that it wouldn't be the same sort of thing. I'm exceptionally weary.
I can put up with a lot for my love of horror but there are definite lines and gratuitous, unrepenting/unpunished rape is right at the top of the shit list.
I wonder what you guys think? What were yer impressions of Feast? Is it worth a look?
Secondly, if you feel differently about the Halloween remake(s) I am up for debate.
Thank you so much for starting a discussion! I dont remember Feast AT ALL I am going to go re-watch Feast right now (or tonight rather) and then come back and give a thoughtful response to this post.
I have a lot of thoughts about Halloween too so when i return with my thoughts on Feast i'll speak to your points as well.
more tonight! xoxoxo
Of course! I love it in here. I keep trying to get some of my non-live journal friends to join live journal just so they can participate here.
I think I will just go ahead a watch it and see what I think. Some days I have a larger capacity for that kind of thing and some days I just don't want to watch anything where women die, ya know? I also feel like if I do think it is a big deal that will cause some discomfort with the person who sloughed off my concerns. Either way, it'll open discussion.
I'll be looking forward to your thoughts!
2010-04-23 08:17 pm (UTC)
John Gulager's Feast (2005)? There's a couple other horror movies by that name, including Mike Tristano's Feast (1992) (with Sharon Mitchell and Ron Jeremy) and Erick Adam's Feast (2009). I've seen Gulager's, and I thought it was pretty bad. I saw some of the Project Greenlight series about the making of it, and that was more interesting. I don't remember a rape in it, maybe one of the creatures raped somebody, but I thought that was in one of the sequels.
I don't remember Zombie's Halloween too well, mainly I recall thinking it was a dumb idea to remake Carpenter's, though I know I hated Zombie's Halloween II. That one was incredibly bad.
I think about the only line for horror filmmakers should be not to actually harm anybody in the making of their film. I have lines as a viewer, though: movies I'm fine with their having been made but which I would not personally care to watch. I think that line is always fluctuating, so I don't know if I could define it. I recently saw the trailer for The Human Centipede, and I thought that one might be too gross for me.
Yes indeed, I am talking about Gulagers. And yup, the rapist is non-human so on a bit of a different level but with the same intent/outcome maybe.
I feel pretty much the same re:what filmmakers can do vs. what I'll watch and that's more so what I meant. My own personal line that I know makes me feel fucked up and that I don't want to endure watching really. More so than saying that a particular subject can't be explored. My boundaries and limits are always changing to but that's been the most constant.
And yeah, I think there's just some things Rob Zombie doesn't get. He should stick to his own things and leave my most loved ones alone! haha.
I haven't seen Feast, so can't comment on that. And I can't really comment on the rape from Zombie's Halloween either because I don't remember seeing that scene-- I did try to watch the movie even though I was not happy about him doing it. So I wasn't the most neutral viewer-- but I couldn't finish it. I didn't get far in either, maybe 15-20 minutes?
I just remember thinking, "That isn't the point of the story. This isn't the way it goes." I get the concept of alternative takes on stories, I even enjoy it when done well. I guess I just don't think the Halloween story needed to be reinterpreted or retold in that particular way.
Again, I'm not neutral. I just plain don't like Zombie's films, I don't feel like he's making them because he has stories to tell. I feel like he wants to be the guy who made Halloween or Texas Chainsaw Massacre, so he makes his own versions of those films and thinks that will get him their kind of status. Probably an unfair assumption, but regardless whatever reason he's doing this, it's not working for me.
That and I'm a little sick of seeing his wife in every movie he makes.